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		<title>By: a die hard star wars fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>a die hard star wars fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 00:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saying this, but midichlorians just indicate the natural power of the force in the individual, the dont create the power; Adding synthetic ones would make no difference. A jedi increases his power through training and meditation, so taking the Force out of the equation would not be a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saying this, but midichlorians just indicate the natural power of the force in the individual, the dont create the power; Adding synthetic ones would make no difference. A jedi increases his power through training and meditation, so taking the Force out of the equation would not be a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: DireWolf84</title>
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		<dc:creator>DireWolf84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 06:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some &quot;Super Star Destroyers&quot; also known as &quot;Star Dreadnoughts&quot; have a Superlaser similar to the one the Death Star had that could destroy a planet as its primary armament. Also keep in mind, Star Destroyers rarely went anywhere without escorts, meaning there would be multiple Star Destroyers. Even the smallest of SDs had hundreds of Tie Fighters and thousands of personnel including boarding parties. They also had the Tractor Beam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some &#8220;Super Star Destroyers&#8221; also known as &#8220;Star Dreadnoughts&#8221; have a Superlaser similar to the one the Death Star had that could destroy a planet as its primary armament. Also keep in mind, Star Destroyers rarely went anywhere without escorts, meaning there would be multiple Star Destroyers. Even the smallest of SDs had hundreds of Tie Fighters and thousands of personnel including boarding parties. They also had the Tractor Beam.</p>
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		<title>By: Someone intelligent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Someone intelligent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I didn&#039;t take the time to read anything. I just want to let everyone know that no Star Wars ship is a match for the Enterprise. Multiple huge ships, ground is even. The thing is, if a few x-wings and a-wings with lowsy laser cannons and minimal shielding can take down a super star destroyer, a huge galaxy class starship with some of the most powerful weaponry in sci-fi and shields more powerful that a super star destroyers could take down a star destroyer. It would only take three photon torpedoes to take down a star destroyer, and they usually use more than that in one shot. You would just need one for each bridge deflector shield generator, and one for the bridge. It would take a matter of about ten seconds. A star destroyer could give the Enterprise everything it had for those few seconds, and it still wouldn&#039;t have enough time to do anything but take down the shields. In this trekkie&#039;s opinion, Enterprise wins all the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I didn&#8217;t take the time to read anything. I just want to let everyone know that no Star Wars ship is a match for the Enterprise. Multiple huge ships, ground is even. The thing is, if a few x-wings and a-wings with lowsy laser cannons and minimal shielding can take down a super star destroyer, a huge galaxy class starship with some of the most powerful weaponry in sci-fi and shields more powerful that a super star destroyers could take down a star destroyer. It would only take three photon torpedoes to take down a star destroyer, and they usually use more than that in one shot. You would just need one for each bridge deflector shield generator, and one for the bridge. It would take a matter of about ten seconds. A star destroyer could give the Enterprise everything it had for those few seconds, and it still wouldn&#8217;t have enough time to do anything but take down the shields. In this trekkie&#8217;s opinion, Enterprise wins all the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Shinju</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shinju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i have to say something

ST weapons are far away better that the star destroyer, they can shot a lot, but the enterprise will not miss anything who enter in his attack range

Photon and Quantum torpedoes, are composed of matter and anti-matter, so, the explosive power of one single torpedo is more than the death star beam
Plus Enterprise can handle a couple of torpedoes without shielding... so...

Shielding, cinetic energy weapons dont do anything against enterprise shielding, even the navigational shielding can handle that fire power

Transporters, Captain of the enterprise can transport 2 torpedoes, one to the engine and one to the bridge
Mobility and chain of command eliminated...
Even they can bring out the fighter crews Heck!
Or all the Star Destroyer Crew to the space...

Warp Speed... do need i explain this?

Phasers, this weapon has the edge on the cutting apart bulky ship contest...

Star Destroyer, RAMMING SPEED
Enterprise, what the hell are they trying, evasive maneuvers... phaser charged at maximum fire at will
Worf (THE GUNNER OF ENTERPRISE-D):  Tarjet destroyed sir

We´re Talking about Brute Force of the huns vs a samurai or a ninja... dont make me laugh plz ¬¬

Lets face an M14 against a Barret or an M24, and lets see who would win.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i have to say something</p>
<p>ST weapons are far away better that the star destroyer, they can shot a lot, but the enterprise will not miss anything who enter in his attack range</p>
<p>Photon and Quantum torpedoes, are composed of matter and anti-matter, so, the explosive power of one single torpedo is more than the death star beam<br />
Plus Enterprise can handle a couple of torpedoes without shielding&#8230; so&#8230;</p>
<p>Shielding, cinetic energy weapons dont do anything against enterprise shielding, even the navigational shielding can handle that fire power</p>
<p>Transporters, Captain of the enterprise can transport 2 torpedoes, one to the engine and one to the bridge<br />
Mobility and chain of command eliminated&#8230;<br />
Even they can bring out the fighter crews Heck!<br />
Or all the Star Destroyer Crew to the space&#8230;</p>
<p>Warp Speed&#8230; do need i explain this?</p>
<p>Phasers, this weapon has the edge on the cutting apart bulky ship contest&#8230;</p>
<p>Star Destroyer, RAMMING SPEED<br />
Enterprise, what the hell are they trying, evasive maneuvers&#8230; phaser charged at maximum fire at will<br />
Worf (THE GUNNER OF ENTERPRISE-D):  Tarjet destroyed sir</p>
<p>We´re Talking about Brute Force of the huns vs a samurai or a ninja&#8230; dont make me laugh plz ¬¬</p>
<p>Lets face an M14 against a Barret or an M24, and lets see who would win&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Stowyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stowyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
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 Ok to correct Some Kid on certan things.
1.  The large orbs on tob of the control tower that is almost standard on all imperial ships over a certain size are long range sensors, Not sheild generators.
2.  Transporter tech does not work as long as ST vessal sheilds are active and wihtout any official source I for one would thing that this would hold true for Imperial sheidling as well since they can shrug off both phisicall entities and radiation.



Actually ST transporters do work with the shields raised, the ships transporter system is aligned with the shields modulation. That being said with the undefined nature of SW weapons laser vrs phaser I wouldnt even post a guess as to the winner if it were energy weapon to energy weapon. The one advantage the ST universe ship would have is there chroniton based torpedoes which were originally developed by the Krinem. The weapons phase in and out of normal time, allowing them to pass through ordinary shields and directly damage a vessel&#039;s hull. 

Over all though I would say the star destroyer would win...

A) because it just has more weaponry and 
B) last I checked the enterprise wasn&#039;t equipped with a compliment of fighters that could quickly over come a single ships defenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
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<strong><em>Greg:</em></strong><br />
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 Ok to correct Some Kid on certan things.<br />
1.  The large orbs on tob of the control tower that is almost standard on all imperial ships over a certain size are long range sensors, Not sheild generators.<br />
2.  Transporter tech does not work as long as ST vessal sheilds are active and wihtout any official source I for one would thing that this would hold true for Imperial sheidling as well since they can shrug off both phisicall entities and radiation.</p>
<p>Actually ST transporters do work with the shields raised, the ships transporter system is aligned with the shields modulation. That being said with the undefined nature of SW weapons laser vrs phaser I wouldnt even post a guess as to the winner if it were energy weapon to energy weapon. The one advantage the ST universe ship would have is there chroniton based torpedoes which were originally developed by the Krinem. The weapons phase in and out of normal time, allowing them to pass through ordinary shields and directly damage a vessel&#8217;s hull. </p>
<p>Over all though I would say the star destroyer would win&#8230;</p>
<p>A) because it just has more weaponry and<br />
B) last I checked the enterprise wasn&#8217;t equipped with a compliment of fighters that could quickly over come a single ships defenses.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: belac</title>
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		<dc:creator>belac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 19:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You claim that the Force would have little to no effect in a battle, but that just serves to prove your ignorance in the matter.  There is a power known as battle meditation, where the Jedi in question can manage an entire fleet subtly. Net result? Phasers just miss the ship.  

Also, to the dude who said that lasers are worthless against the Enterprise, an Imperial Class Star Destroyer also carries ion cannons and strike craft.  The ion cannons eat through sheilds and strike craft are too numerous for the enterprise to take them all out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You claim that the Force would have little to no effect in a battle, but that just serves to prove your ignorance in the matter.  There is a power known as battle meditation, where the Jedi in question can manage an entire fleet subtly. Net result? Phasers just miss the ship.  </p>
<p>Also, to the dude who said that lasers are worthless against the Enterprise, an Imperial Class Star Destroyer also carries ion cannons and strike craft.  The ion cannons eat through sheilds and strike craft are too numerous for the enterprise to take them all out.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also more interesting fight would be  the &quot;home one&quot; against enterprise d or e. &quot;home one&quot; takes to star destroyers in episode VI correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also more interesting fight would be  the &#8220;home one&#8221; against enterprise d or e. &#8220;home one&#8221; takes to star destroyers in episode VI correct.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the enterprise in Picard&#039;s star trek can not produce a tera-watt also the enterprise can&#039;t go full speed while shooting at the same time because it can not power both.  Warp drives are clearly fragile and the phasers aren&#039;t comparable to the &quot;lasers that are only lasers for lack of a better word&quot;.  Shielding is irrelevent also   to truly test the fight you would need to convert the SW lasers to ST phasers and protons to photons   

SW wins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the enterprise in Picard&#8217;s star trek can not produce a tera-watt also the enterprise can&#8217;t go full speed while shooting at the same time because it can not power both.  Warp drives are clearly fragile and the phasers aren&#8217;t comparable to the &#8220;lasers that are only lasers for lack of a better word&#8221;.  Shielding is irrelevent also   to truly test the fight you would need to convert the SW lasers to ST phasers and protons to photons   </p>
<p>SW wins</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 18:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing people look past is very simple, the star destroyer wouldn&#039;t be able to damage the enterprise. In some episodes they have been shot at by lazers &amp; lazers no matter what power will not penetrate the shields. I know this is a geek arguement but look at what&#039;s the ideas behind the two. I like both star wars &amp; star trek but star wars is what I call sci-fantasy &amp; star trek is  sci-fiction. Study both of them &amp; the science theories that&#039;s in them &amp; don&#039;t base it off what you think is cooler. I think the enterprise-d would easily defeat the star destroyer. Shooting lazers at the enterprise is like shooting a tank with a bb gun. Also they could just eject the warp core or in the star trek universe they have made red matter which makes black holes. As I said I love both of them but they&#039;re nothing at all alike unless you get caught up in the tech props used to tell the story which too many people do. I&#039;ve never really liked the comparisons between the two because they are nothing alike, even the fact that one took place a long time ago &amp; the other is in the future. However this discussion is fun so what the hell. Now that I feel like a geek for taking time to do this I&#039;m heading to the bar to watch the super bowl &amp; never tell someone I posted this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing people look past is very simple, the star destroyer wouldn&#8217;t be able to damage the enterprise. In some episodes they have been shot at by lazers &amp; lazers no matter what power will not penetrate the shields. I know this is a geek arguement but look at what&#8217;s the ideas behind the two. I like both star wars &amp; star trek but star wars is what I call sci-fantasy &amp; star trek is  sci-fiction. Study both of them &amp; the science theories that&#8217;s in them &amp; don&#8217;t base it off what you think is cooler. I think the enterprise-d would easily defeat the star destroyer. Shooting lazers at the enterprise is like shooting a tank with a bb gun. Also they could just eject the warp core or in the star trek universe they have made red matter which makes black holes. As I said I love both of them but they&#8217;re nothing at all alike unless you get caught up in the tech props used to tell the story which too many people do. I&#8217;ve never really liked the comparisons between the two because they are nothing alike, even the fact that one took place a long time ago &amp; the other is in the future. However this discussion is fun so what the hell. Now that I feel like a geek for taking time to do this I&#8217;m heading to the bar to watch the super bowl &amp; never tell someone I posted this.</p>
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		<title>By: DAVID</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAVID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 02:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to add one thing off subject but as a reply to KFAJ concerning a negative comment about the Abrams Main Battle Tank.  The targeting system, loading mechanism, and over all design of the Abrams far exceeded anything the french have.  This was first demonstrated in the First Gulf war and has been verififed in other NATO actions.  

The targeting system of the Abrams allows near point and shoot ability and ranges well over a mile.  Factors the targeting system adjusts for are wind speed and drag at various elevations, muzzle drift and and stabilization when firing on the move, distance and possible obstacles, the correolis effect for long range, and others.

The reason a manual loading system is used is because automated reloading systems are notoriously unreliable which is humorous considering the day we live in.  An automated reloading system could also interfere with the some of Abram&#039;s damage mitigation systems which seal the ammunition store if the tank is hit.  Blow away panels direct the explosion of the damaged ammunition store upwards and away from the crew.  This eliminates a major cause of death in the Armored Cavalry.

It is my understanding that the latest generation M1 Abrams is currently tied with the British Challenger as the most advanced tank in the world.  Followed by the Russian T-90 and then the French Leclerc or Chinese Type 99</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to add one thing off subject but as a reply to KFAJ concerning a negative comment about the Abrams Main Battle Tank.  The targeting system, loading mechanism, and over all design of the Abrams far exceeded anything the french have.  This was first demonstrated in the First Gulf war and has been verififed in other NATO actions.  </p>
<p>The targeting system of the Abrams allows near point and shoot ability and ranges well over a mile.  Factors the targeting system adjusts for are wind speed and drag at various elevations, muzzle drift and and stabilization when firing on the move, distance and possible obstacles, the correolis effect for long range, and others.</p>
<p>The reason a manual loading system is used is because automated reloading systems are notoriously unreliable which is humorous considering the day we live in.  An automated reloading system could also interfere with the some of Abram&#8217;s damage mitigation systems which seal the ammunition store if the tank is hit.  Blow away panels direct the explosion of the damaged ammunition store upwards and away from the crew.  This eliminates a major cause of death in the Armored Cavalry.</p>
<p>It is my understanding that the latest generation M1 Abrams is currently tied with the British Challenger as the most advanced tank in the world.  Followed by the Russian T-90 and then the French Leclerc or Chinese Type 99</p>
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