Comments for Martian Outpost http://martianoutpost.com Your source for great sci-fi news! Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:04:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on Ultimate Battle: U.S.S. Enterprise vs. A Star Destroyer – Battle Of The Ships by Jesse http://martianoutpost.com/2007/12/ultimate-battle-uss-enterprise-vs-a-star-destroyer-%e2%80%93-battle-of-the-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-99 Jesse Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:04:22 +0000 http://www.martianoutpost.com/?p=36#comment-99 The Q Need I say more. The Q

Need I say more.

]]> Comment on Ultimate Battle: U.S.S. Enterprise vs. A Star Destroyer – Battle Of The Ships by Kirk Lives http://martianoutpost.com/2007/12/ultimate-battle-uss-enterprise-vs-a-star-destroyer-%e2%80%93-battle-of-the-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-97 Kirk Lives Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:28:43 +0000 http://www.martianoutpost.com/?p=36#comment-97 You Star Wars fans make me laugh so damn hard. You keep quoting the EU. The EU is NOT canon. Only the movies are canon. Books are NOT! Just ask Karen Traviss about this. She had everything she wrote about the Mandalorians nulified...shot out a warp core conduit...destroyed. Why? Because it wasn't canon. You know what Steve Sansweet (director of fan relations) said about REAL canon? And I quote" When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves — and only the films." You can quote laser output and shield generator figures all you want. It is all made up. One author will quote one thing, and the next author will completely nullify the previous author's content. If the was EU is legit, I might as well write a Star Trek book and quote the Enterprise as having a better-than-death-star cannon capable of destroying entire solar systems. It's all bull crap. If you go off of the movies and TV shows (canon), Star Trek easily wastes a star destroyer. Heck, a shuttle pod could waste an star destroyer. They are pieces of crap. The clunky millenium falcon proved that. Nuff said. Star Trek KICKS Star Wars in any match up. Let me re-word that. Star Trek EASILY KICKS Star Wars in any match. Lasers.......don't make me laugh! You Star Wars fans make me laugh so damn hard. You keep quoting the EU. The EU is NOT canon. Only the movies are canon. Books are NOT!

Just ask Karen Traviss about this. She had everything she wrote about the Mandalorians nulified…shot out a warp core conduit…destroyed. Why? Because it wasn’t canon.

You know what Steve Sansweet (director of fan relations) said about REAL canon? And I quote” When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves — and only the films.”

You can quote laser output and shield generator figures all you want. It is all made up. One author will quote one thing, and the next author will completely nullify the previous author’s content.

If the was EU is legit, I might as well write a Star Trek book and quote the Enterprise as having a better-than-death-star cannon capable of destroying entire solar systems. It’s all bull crap.

If you go off of the movies and TV shows (canon), Star Trek easily wastes a star destroyer. Heck, a shuttle pod could waste an star destroyer. They are pieces of crap. The clunky millenium falcon proved that.

Nuff said. Star Trek KICKS Star Wars in any match up. Let me re-word that. Star Trek EASILY KICKS Star Wars in any match.

Lasers…….don’t make me laugh!

]]> Comment on Ultimate Battle: U.S.S. Enterprise vs. A Star Destroyer – Battle Of The Ships by dion http://martianoutpost.com/2007/12/ultimate-battle-uss-enterprise-vs-a-star-destroyer-%e2%80%93-battle-of-the-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-96 dion Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:18:42 +0000 http://www.martianoutpost.com/?p=36#comment-96 OK Im sick of this shit we are all a big fan of both trek&wars star wars is cooler it has more fighting better skilled & star trek tng. is cool for its stuff . butt i thing the enterprise-d can destroy the stardestroyer for 3 resin 1 it has better shields 2 it can ceporate 3 make it es eyer to destroy it . and i will show you how it can be done . OK Im sick of this shit we are all a big fan of both trek&wars star wars is cooler it has more fighting better skilled & star trek tng. is cool for its stuff . butt i thing the enterprise-d can destroy the stardestroyer for 3 resin 1 it has better shields 2 it can ceporate 3 make it es eyer to destroy it . and i will show you how it can be done .

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]]> Comment on Ultimate Battle: U.S.S. Enterprise vs. A Star Destroyer – Battle Of The Ships by Although a sensless discussion http://martianoutpost.com/2007/12/ultimate-battle-uss-enterprise-vs-a-star-destroyer-%e2%80%93-battle-of-the-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-93 Although a sensless discussion Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:38:52 +0000 http://www.martianoutpost.com/?p=36#comment-93 You don't need to discuss over the matter. The SD would not only be able to fry the Enterprise, but the entire Federation as well. Why? Energy figures: A SD reactor has the energy output of a 3rd of a sun-like star (enough sources exist). The entire starfleet probably doesn't have this output in its ships. Weaponry: The argument with lasers not being able to penetrate the E's shields is inaccurate. Put enough power in it and any shield will fall. Besides - as stated somewhere above - a Turbolaser is no laser but actually a plasma cannon of immense power. A single hit would vaporize the Enterprise. Shields: SW shields deflect against energy and matter witnessed in several occasions. And they must be powerful enough to deflect SW weaponry. They are actually so powerful, that the Enterprise could drain its entire energy reserve on it without even seriously scratching it. Saying that an A-Wing punched out a (weakened) deflector of an SSD might be true, but it is a fighter with SW-weaponry. The cannons of this A-Wing would slice even through fully charged shields of the Enterprise af if they weren't even there. Maneuverability: Irrelevant if you can't hurt the enemy anyway. Timeframe: Coruscant, the capital of the SW-galaxy is a planet-wide city many miles high, which original surface last saw sunlight about 100,000 years before the battle of yavin 4. It has more inhabitants than the entire federation. FTL travel existed there almost as long for the known civilizations (Rakata and earlier). Industrial might: The galactic empire employed millions of starships larger than corellian corvettes and was able to actually build 2 moon-sized bases in a matter of a few years in secrecy without even sending a slight shockwave through galactic economy and despite producing the millions of starships of which the SD alone went through at least 3 generations in 20 years. Given the statement, that the federation would need one year to overcome the losses of the battle at wolf 359... well use your imagination. Size: In the SW-galaxy about one 4th of the galaxy are thouroughly explored (ca. 100 billion systems) and the galactic empire had more than one million fully developed member worlds and several dozen million colonies and outposts. The empire consisted of about 2,000 sectors and each with a sector fleet of about 1,600 to 2,400 capital ships plus an active fleet. This size even makes the Borg insignificant. But anyway. These are two universes and so a comparison is useless for in both you have beings like Q in ST and the celestials in SW who can pretty much do anything they want. You don’t need to discuss over the matter. The SD would not only be able to fry the Enterprise, but the entire Federation as well. Why?
Energy figures: A SD reactor has the energy output of a 3rd of a sun-like star (enough sources exist). The entire starfleet probably doesn’t have this output in its ships.
Weaponry: The argument with lasers not being able to penetrate the E’s shields is inaccurate. Put enough power in it and any shield will fall. Besides – as stated somewhere above – a Turbolaser is no laser but actually a plasma cannon of immense power. A single hit would vaporize the Enterprise.
Shields: SW shields deflect against energy and matter witnessed in several occasions. And they must be powerful enough to deflect SW weaponry. They are actually so powerful, that the Enterprise could drain its entire energy reserve on it without even seriously scratching it.
Saying that an A-Wing punched out a (weakened) deflector of an SSD might be true, but it is a fighter with SW-weaponry. The cannons of this A-Wing would slice even through fully charged shields of the Enterprise af if they weren’t even there.
Maneuverability: Irrelevant if you can’t hurt the enemy anyway.
Timeframe: Coruscant, the capital of the SW-galaxy is a planet-wide city many miles high, which original surface last saw sunlight about 100,000 years before the battle of yavin 4. It has more inhabitants than the entire federation. FTL travel existed there almost as long for the known civilizations (Rakata and earlier).
Industrial might: The galactic empire employed millions of starships larger than corellian corvettes and was able to actually build 2 moon-sized bases in a matter of a few years in secrecy without even sending a slight shockwave through galactic economy and despite producing the millions of starships of which the SD alone went through at least 3 generations in 20 years. Given the statement, that the federation would need one year to overcome the losses of the battle at wolf 359… well use your imagination.
Size: In the SW-galaxy about one 4th of the galaxy are thouroughly explored (ca. 100 billion systems) and the galactic empire had more than one million fully developed member worlds and several dozen million colonies and outposts. The empire consisted of about 2,000 sectors and each with a sector fleet of about 1,600 to 2,400 capital ships plus an active fleet. This size even makes the Borg insignificant.

But anyway. These are two universes and so a comparison is useless for in both you have beings like Q in ST and the celestials in SW who can pretty much do anything they want.

]]> Comment on Ultimate Battle: U.S.S. Enterprise vs. A Star Destroyer – Battle Of The Ships by fajner1 http://martianoutpost.com/2007/12/ultimate-battle-uss-enterprise-vs-a-star-destroyer-%e2%80%93-battle-of-the-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-92 fajner1 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:42:48 +0000 http://www.martianoutpost.com/?p=36#comment-92 and beaming wud be useless. particles cant go thru shields and enterprise wont take shields down. if they managed to beam on to disable from inside guess wat: and ISD carriers 9,700 stormtroopers, bye bye assault squad. and they cudnt beam onto a TIE fighter because: 1. im not even sure u can beam onto something going that fast 2. TIE fighters have barely enough room for the pilot 3. Ties have no life support. they have artificial gravity and internal compensators so G forces dont kill driver but that about it. driver wears a full vacuum suit 4. ISD Lieutenant: o look one fighter is heading back without contact and its being flown terribly ISD Captain: they must have taken it over, blow it up (they wudnt even need it to blow up, just close the hangar bay). face it trekkies: george lucas didnt want u winnning these forum battles so he made star wars have superior weapons and beaming wud be useless. particles cant go thru shields and enterprise wont take shields down. if they managed to beam on to disable from inside guess wat: and ISD carriers 9,700 stormtroopers, bye bye assault squad. and they cudnt beam onto a TIE fighter because:

1. im not even sure u can beam onto something going that fast

2. TIE fighters have barely enough room for the pilot

3. Ties have no life support. they have artificial gravity and internal compensators so G forces dont kill driver but that about it. driver wears a full vacuum suit

4. ISD Lieutenant: o look one fighter is heading back without contact and its being flown terribly

ISD Captain: they must have taken it over, blow it up

(they wudnt even need it to blow up, just close the hangar bay).

face it trekkies: george lucas didnt want u winnning these forum battles so he made star wars have superior weapons

]]> Comment on Ultimate Battle: U.S.S. Enterprise vs. A Star Destroyer – Battle Of The Ships by fajner1 http://martianoutpost.com/2007/12/ultimate-battle-uss-enterprise-vs-a-star-destroyer-%e2%80%93-battle-of-the-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-91 fajner1 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:37:14 +0000 http://www.martianoutpost.com/?p=36#comment-91 ok first of all: ive researched and one heavy turbolaser blast does several times the dissipation capabliity of the enterprise. also, in star wars, lasers are not lasers. they just had nothing better to call them. they are basically stuff that fires at a few terawatts and is heated to like 2000C ok first of all: ive researched and one heavy turbolaser blast does several times the dissipation capabliity of the enterprise. also, in star wars, lasers are not lasers. they just had nothing better to call them. they are basically stuff that fires at a few terawatts and is heated to like 2000C

]]> Comment on Ultimate Battle: U.S.S. Enterprise vs. A Star Destroyer – Battle Of The Ships by panzeracclamator http://martianoutpost.com/2007/12/ultimate-battle-uss-enterprise-vs-a-star-destroyer-%e2%80%93-battle-of-the-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-90 panzeracclamator Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:09:10 +0000 http://www.martianoutpost.com/?p=36#comment-90 the super star destroyer, which you said was defeated by a mere starfighter, withstood millions of nukes worth of damage before the shield failed. then a starfighter merely crashed through the window. turbolasers are thousands of times more powerful than phasers, imperial ships can accelerate to .99c WITHOUT their hyperdrives, and a photon torpedo cannot destroy a planet; it would take the enterprise's entire payload of torpedoes to destroy a 5km hollow asteroid. turbo lasers can hit targets 10 light minutes away, while we only see phasers used out to 10km max. an imperial class ship is 14x the mass of a galaxy-class ship. phasers have been proven time and time again to be absolutely horrible against metals the super star destroyer, which you said was defeated by a mere starfighter, withstood millions of nukes worth of damage before the shield failed. then a starfighter merely crashed through the window. turbolasers are thousands of times more powerful than phasers, imperial ships can accelerate to .99c WITHOUT their hyperdrives, and a photon torpedo cannot destroy a planet; it would take the enterprise’s entire payload of torpedoes to destroy a 5km hollow asteroid. turbo lasers can hit targets 10 light minutes away, while we only see phasers used out to 10km max. an imperial class ship is 14x the mass of a galaxy-class ship.
phasers have been proven time and time again to be absolutely horrible against metals

]]> Comment on Ultimate Battle: U.S.S. Enterprise vs. A Star Destroyer – Battle Of The Ships by Obliviousluke http://martianoutpost.com/2007/12/ultimate-battle-uss-enterprise-vs-a-star-destroyer-%e2%80%93-battle-of-the-ships/comment-page-1/#comment-89 Obliviousluke Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:00:41 +0000 http://www.martianoutpost.com/?p=36#comment-89 I am going for the star destroyer. I can see where the ST fans are coming from though. Phasers are powerful, maybe more powerful than a turbolaser but the shielding on any Federation ship is relatively weak. One torpedo to the enterprise causes everything in the bridge to spark injuring people whereas a star destroyer will maybe shake a bit and carry on. Another thing with the shields is they don't just stop energy weapons. They have ray shields which stops solid matter from passing through also such as asteroids. Sensors... Well this is a difficult one, I would say the Enterprise has better sensors but apart from telling you the status of your's and the enemy's ship, what good are they in a battle? Targeting system... The targeting system on both ships is good. I mean both ships can hit ships maybe 6 times smaller than them. (Enterprise with a Delta flyer and Star Destroyer with millennium falcon). Alot of people are saying distance makes a difference mainly in favour to the Enterprise. But a star Destroyer's turbolasers have about 10-12 settings for different scenarios and distances. The Enterprise can maybe carry 4 delta flyers on board. A star destroyer has over 100 fighters and bombers on board. You think of the enterprise at the same time trying to fight off a ship twice its size firing hundreds of bolts at it and trying to shoot down all the bombers with their payload. Not even Data can do that!!!! I also found a comparison chart using canon information but I can't remember the website =/. Anyway it showed that an Acclamator, yes, a republic troop carrier not designed for war had something like 45,000 (whatever unit it was) more energy in their turbolasers than the Enterprise E's phasers. Well I can't think of anything else to say lol. I love both star wars and star trek but a star destroyer would win. Sorry star trek. I am going for the star destroyer. I can see where the ST fans are coming from though. Phasers are powerful, maybe more powerful than a turbolaser but the shielding on any Federation ship is relatively weak. One torpedo to the enterprise causes everything in the bridge to spark injuring people whereas a star destroyer will maybe shake a bit and carry on. Another thing with the shields is they don’t just stop energy weapons. They have ray shields which stops solid matter from passing through also such as asteroids. Sensors…
Well this is a difficult one, I would say the Enterprise has better sensors but apart from telling you the status of your’s and the enemy’s ship, what good are they in a battle? Targeting system… The targeting system on both ships is good. I mean both ships can hit ships maybe 6 times smaller than them. (Enterprise with a Delta flyer and Star Destroyer with millennium falcon). Alot of people are saying distance makes a difference mainly in favour to the Enterprise. But a star Destroyer’s turbolasers have about 10-12 settings for different scenarios and distances. The Enterprise can maybe carry 4 delta flyers on board. A star destroyer has over 100 fighters and bombers on board. You think of the enterprise at the same time trying to fight off a ship twice its size firing hundreds of bolts at it and trying to shoot down all the bombers with their payload. Not even Data can do that!!!! I also found a comparison chart using canon information but I can’t remember the website =/. Anyway it showed that an Acclamator, yes, a republic troop carrier not designed for war had something like 45,000 (whatever unit it was) more energy in their turbolasers than the Enterprise E’s phasers. Well I can’t think of anything else to say lol. I love both star wars and star trek but a star destroyer would win. Sorry star trek.

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